The Miracle of the Undead Baby...Who Died

I don't doubt that people with strong political convictions may use creative interpretations of current events to promote whatever agenda they have.  But I don't see how this relates to elective abortion at all.  Even the most extreme pro-life people don't oppose abortion when the fetus is thought to be dead (or if labor needs to be induced to protect a fetus in dire need of extra-uterine medical care). 

The whole point of being pro-life is you don't want to kill a living fetus.

--Z

Nothing more, nothing less.

Born into this world alive, no other way around it.

"Even the most extreme pro-life people don't oppose abortion when the fetus is thought to be dead...."

Are you sure? Because I think you could find at least a few who would consider it desecrating the body.

With 5 billion people on the planet you can find a nut somewhere who will believe just about anything.  But that would really be something--letting the mother die of sepsis rather than get the dead fetus out of her. 

--Z

Why is this post on jewcy? So that someone can write a lame post on abortion politics?

if you would have, a dead baby would not be the subject of your protopolitical drone, moreover, fully grown people are pronounced dead and come back to life - it's not uncommon. there is something sickening about your use of a dead baby to further your - whatever you call this that you do here on jewcy.

Yes. I too am sickened by .. Whatever it is that Tamar is doing that is sickening. It's just sickening, whatever it is. 

Perhaps a follow-up as to the specific point you were trying to make would be in order... the facts of the case seem not to be at issue: they thought the baby was dead; they induced labor; sent the baby to the morgue; the baby then turned out not to have been dead (notwithstanding 5 hours in a freezer); the baby then died.  From this, what conclusions would you like us to draw?

failing to feel, to empathise, to become so coldly blase about death, (particularly a death of a baby), about life, points to a very deep sickness. It may be a fashionable psychological malaise that is prevalent in these parts, one that you fail to even notice in the intoxicating fumes of your own clever cynical New York effluence . But the dulling of heart and the sharpening of the written tonge means only one thing; that you probably need Jesus to turn your heart of stone into one of flesh.

you wrote:Undead Preemie: didn't survive"

PREEMIE??? -

Am i the only one that is shocked by this ?

I'm shocked by this: "But the dulling of heart and the sharpening of the written tonge means only one thing; that you probably need Jesus to turn your heart of stone into one of flesh".

...What are you asking for, Max? For Tamar to waste her time bemoaning the valuable loss of a baby's life. Babies die all the time. It sucks. I'm sorry.

As for "preemie" I don't know what's so offensive about that. Is it offensive here: http://www.preemie.com/ ?

Yeah, I really don't see what's offensive about what Tamar wrote.  I'm sure that random pro-lifers will find curious ways of using this story to their advantage, maybe even throw in some digs about the (I think undervalued) stem-cell research groups in Israel too.  Having within watched my father, grandfather, and a few other relatives die over the past few years, I've dealt with a great deal of death, but I really don't understand the obsessive "extra" sensitivity about subjects like infant mortality.  Premature birth, infant deaths, and abortions are widespread in nature and among humanity.  To point it out without breaking into tears is hardly cynical. 

 Of course, it could be my cynical Philly coldness bleeding through...oh, and Max (and whoever else wants Jesus performing alchemy on their vital organs) that verse - Ezekiel 36:26 - you're misquoting has nothing to with Jesus.  

Craig 'Jesus' I was being intentionally offensive. Gregory this misquote is has the same meaning, heart of stone to one of flesh and removing the foreskin of your heart, two different metaphors which are saying the same thing, that you don't feel, you don't empathise and you're not fully human, and a prayer that one day you might.

The point being that Tamar's insensitivity is so far away from Judaism that she's more likely to convert to Jews for Jesus than realise how sick she is.

poking fun at a dead baby to make your own twisted political point is as funny as a 'your grandma in Auschwitz...' joke.

She WASN'T poking fun, at anything. BUT it WAS tasteless to politicize this loss. HOWEVER - nobody thinks about the FEAR Tamar lives with, which produced this admitedly tasteless policiticizing. The men are all having a nice day, while Tamar (and the thousands like her) is not married, and lives in terror of any pull-back of Roe v Wade. It is a good bet that Tamar is not married because nobody has asked her, (referencing her only as a TYPE of charming, educated, young lady, and there are thousands, not at all as someone without appeal. She has plenty of appeal. Just look at her photo. They are ALL cute and smart. But nobody WILL ask her, or the others. Not in today's climate. Not in today's economy. Which climate does not shield her, either. This is not the Middle Ages, and Tamar does not live in a picturesque hundred-foot tower with a moat. She is vulnerable.

So, all she's GOT is Roe v. Wade! And that is all she is GOING TO GET. She has a RIGHT to be scared! Her utter tasteless has to viewed against that background.