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The Sierra Club: Izzy and Michael Debate

Prompted by my post below about l'affaire Sierra, Izzy engaged me in a Skype conversation. As always, it was more fun than either of us have any right to be having on the clock:

Izzy: So here's the thing: it sounds like you're advocating a "suck it up" approach. I mean, sure the internet is a nasty place. So's East New York. But if the police told any crime victim that they just shouldn't be in crime-ridden places, that would be hugely irresponsible.

Michael: Well, if you read her self-regarding post about the whole thing, you begin to think she's overreacting.

Izzy: I read it, and I don't. I can see how something in her tone could be off-putting – angry and scared people can sound a little self-obsessed. But legitimately – when someone threatens you, you become obsessed with your own well-being. I wouldn't have cancelled the conference, but i would have talked to the organizers about security.

Michael: The distinction is this: living in East New York means having to navigate a hazardous terrain everyday, and with no other choice in the matter. Starting a blog means granting yourself the ability to a) block comments, b) block certain ISP addresses, c) keep your identity, location private.

Izzy: But the comments weren't on her blog.

Michael: Some of them were.

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