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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Demure yet outspoken, Molly Crabapple seems like a heroine out of Nabokov: perched on the fault-line between the Belle Époque and the postmodern, comfortable with Symbolist poetry as she is with the demimonde of the skin trade. Art or ardor: Who says you can’t have both? The daughter of a Jewish-American mama and a Puerto&#8230;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Demure yet outspoken, <a href="http://www.mollycrabapple.com/">Molly Crabapple</a> seems like a heroine out of Nabokov: perched on the fault-line between the Belle Époque and the postmodern, comfortable with Symbolist poetry as she is with the demimonde of the skin trade. Art or ardor: Who says you can’t have both?    <a href="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly4.gif" class="mfp-image"><img loading="lazy" src="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly4-450x270.gif" alt="" width="450" height="270" /></a>The daughter of a Jewish-American mama and a Puerto Rican papa, Crabapple (née Jennifer Caban) took off from provincial Far Rockaway at 17 to travel the world. She learned to draw in a Paris Shakespeare &amp; Co., working the register and sleeping on the floor, before legging it to Turkey and the mountains of Kurdistan, where she imbibed peasant folklore and not a little self-determination. You know how it goes at 17. But do you know anyone else at 23 who&#39;s been photographed frolicking naked through pink cupcakes and packing peanuts and peddles vignettes on-demand for <i>The New York Times</i> and <i>Wall Street Journal</i>?    Breasts, like ankles, were occasionally bared under Victorianism. Had Crabapple been sketching back then, Wilde would have had company at Reading Gaol. (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_Beardsley">Aubrey Beardsley</a>, Oscar’s preferred book illustrator, is an avowed influence of hers.) A little over a year ago, she co-founded <a href="http://www.drsketchy.com/">Dr. Sketchy’s Anti-Art School</a>, a palette guild cum rebel aesthetic movement where the models receive fair pay and the sketchers swill their absinthe and shade their bawdy in peace. The collective’s first volume, <i><a href="http://www.sepulculture.com/">Dr. Sketchy’s Official Rainy Day Colouring Book</a></i>, was released last month.    We spoke to her recently – just last week, in fact – about art, religion and sex, Anatolian history and why burlesque (making fun of people with no clothes on) is making a comeback.  <b>  When you were 18, you were briefly detained in a Turkish jail for sketching in Kurdistan. What did you make of the region? And as a Jew, were you sympathetic to the Kurds’ longing for their own homeland?</b>     I love the Middle East generally, and Kurdistan specifically. I studied Turkish and Arabic for years—being just fluent enough in Turkish to get me into trouble, though not fluent enough to get me out of it. I dug the relaxed Kurdish take on Islam, their language, their raw, throaty music, the wild green hills near Dogubeyazit with the silver roads that went from nowhere to nowhere, how you could walk around, and within a few hours, women would invite you over for food, and how easy it was to talk to anyone. I even liked the guns and tribalism and sulfur whiff of violence.     But Southeastern Turkey five years ago was very recently a war zone. The Turkish government, despite being moderate by Middle Eastern standards, is no ideal democracy. Since Ataturk, the official party line is that minorities don&#39;t exist. Kurdish language and music were banned. Textbooks referred to Kurds as &quot;mountain turks.&quot; &quot;How Happy is He Who is a Turk&quot; was written in thirty foot letters on the side of mountains.<br />
<a href="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly7.jpg" class="mfp-image"><img loading="lazy" src="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly7-450x270.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="270" /></a>  I stayed with people who had posters of Ataturk in the front rooms, and Kurdish nationalist posters in the back. I spent a long time in a village called Hassankeyf, all ancient and honey-colored, which the government was flooding to build their new dam. Of course, they didn&#39;t make any provision for the folks living there. You can check out Amnesty International for Turkey&#39;s dismal human rights record. Police in the East also constantly hassled me for talking to locals.     While I&#39;m not sure about splitting Turkish Kurdistan off to make a Kurdish homeland (for one thing it would be vastly poorer than the more modernized West), the Turkish government could learn a lesson about multi-cultural tolerance from the Western democracies whose trappings they try to emulate.     <b>So your parents just let you take off to travel the world at the age of 17? Not your stereotypical </b><b>Jewish parents.</b>     My dad&#39;s Puerto Rican, if that changes anything. And I&#39;m just stubborn.     <b>Is globe-hopping on no money an experience you&#39;d recommend to anyone?</b>     Yes! It teaches you diehard practicality, wile, guile, bits of several languages, how to keep yourself entertained on thirty-hour bus rides, and that everything you learned in high school is a lie.     <b>What influenced you to move into the whole neo-Victorian, absinthe-drinking aesthetic?  Aubrey Beardsley is not a point of reference one usually associates with kids from Far Rockaway.</b>     I read lots of books when I was a kid. My mom&#39;s also an illustrator, and I grew up knowing about Toulouse-Lautrec and reading old copies of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salome_%28play%29"><i>Salome</i></a>. I&#39;m not sure what initially tilted me towards that, but it sure stuck.     <b>Like you, I also grew up in the unfashionable part of the outer boroughs. It can be a really hard place to be a creative, weird kid. How did you survive?</b><br />
<a href="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/mollyinwonderland.jpg" class="mfp-image"><img loading="lazy" src="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/mollyinwonderland-450x270.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="270" /></a>Books! And having an older boyfriend (something I recommend to every precocious teenage girl).     <b>Do any books in particular stand out? And what do you recommend to the precocious guys? Older girlfriends?</b>     Inspired by a Russian friend, I got really into the Silver Age Russian poets—Blok, Akhmatova, Tsetayeva. There was this sort of romantic, tragic decadence—looking back, we know that the Russian revolution was going to wipe out their way of life. Also, clichéd as it is, stuff about the Lost Generation made me want to go to Paris. I was a pretentious little twerp.     As for older girlfriends—if they can get them.     <b>Do you think that the radical Jewish intellectual milieu had a big effect on your development? Any yiddishkeit in your way of seeing the world?</b>     My family is a long line of Jewish non-conformists. My great-grandfather was an artist who joined the Bund, fled Russia in 1905, and opened a failed vegetarian chicken farm during the Depression. His paintings are now in the Smithsonian. The rest of my family were proto-hippies who went to India to follow the Baba, walked across America living on nuts, espoused communism and Madame Blavatsky, and got rejected by draft-boards for their long hair and pacifism. I definitely never felt out of place, looking at my lineage. There&#39;s something about Jews that makes us smart and nutty and dissatisfied.     <b>You used to model nude for a bunch of places. Which ones? And would you do it again, or do you have qualms now that you&#39;re selling your art for the New York Times?</b><br />
<a href="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly5.jpg" class="mfp-image"><img loading="lazy" src="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly5-450x270.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="270" /></a>  I&#39;ve posed for Lowrider with a 20&#39;s automobile, in Shojo Beat fully clothed with crazy anime hair, thrice on Nerve.com, for prints that hung in swanky gallery shows and for books of pseudo-19th century French postcards. I&#39;ve posed for photographers who I&#39;m immensely proud to have worked with, like Aaron Hawks, who built room-sized sets for each shoot, or the French fashion photographer Eddie Briere. I&#39;ve also posed for lots of sleazeoids with point and click cameras who could pay me $100 an hour.     I wouldn&#39;t be illustrating for the Times if I hadn&#39;t been a naked model. I got my Times job the way many illustrators get jobs—I did a postcard mailing to potential art directors. Postcard mailings cost hundreds of bucks. There&#39;s no way I could have afforded that if I were making $8 an hour (the fate of most art students). And, if I was pulling a 40-hour week, I probably would have been too tired to draw.     <b>There&#39;s a huge precedent for Jewish Girls Gone Bad—moving to the Village, joining the counterculture, becoming artists or whatnot. Do you feel part of a grand tradition?</b>     A bit. Right now I&#39;m reading Trav SD&#39;s brilliant vaudeville history, No Applause, Just Throw Money, which is in part the story of Jewish girls who ran away from home, reinvented themselves, and took over the world.     <b>Would you ever consider doing graphic novels?</b>     Not my thing. Though maybe in the future, I&#39;d love to do a heavily illustrated novel, though, a la <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rent-Girl-Michelle-Tea/dp/0867196203/sr=8-1/qid=1168900282/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9509682-6004452?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"><i>Rent Girl </i></a>by Michelle Tea and Laurenn McCubbin.   <b>  You <a href="http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/12/22/molly_crabapple_1.php">told</a> Gothamist that modern libertinism &quot;all seems forced and passionless.&quot; Has sex become more commodified than it used to be? And how do you react against that in your work?</b><br />
<a href="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly2.jpg" class="mfp-image"><img loading="lazy" src="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Molly2-450x270.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="270" /></a>  I think that, like food and status, sex is too primal not to be commodified. And, as a former nude model and current pornographic scribbler, I&#39;m just as guilty of selling sex as anyone. In fact, I&#39;m all for selling it. You can turn a good profit. But glamourless, emotionless hookup culture isn&#39;t for me. And I found an awful lot of girls who were sleeping around were doing it for approval, not orgasms. Be promiscuous because you want to fuck.     My art isn&#39;t a grand statement about sexuality in modern America, so much as a reflection of my darkish, adolescent-boy sense of humor. Sex is funny. I also worked in some of the milder aspects of the sex industry, which led to lots of time standing around naked and thinking about sex and power.     <b>Your style is reminiscent of Robert Crumb, who, despite his underground-comix origin, has become a serious figure in the art world. Do you have aspirations to be taken seriously by the bigwigs in Chelsea?</b>     Heavens, it sure would suck to need a stiff, boring opening for validation. As long as smart, interesting people like my work, and have the cash to keep me in style, Chelsea can go suck it. Besides, high art temples wouldn&#39;t be much interested in my work. I&#39;m an illustrator, which, for many galleries, is a hairsbreadth lower than whore.     Thank god for the amazing, Juxtapoz-fueled, pop-surrealist art subculture, which is rapidly infiltrating New York&#39;s white walled preserves. Mark Ryden recently sold a painting for a million dollars. With prices like that, we craftsmen don&#39;t really need to deal with high aahht. </p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Horny haredim provide endless fodder for secular Jews playing the “See, you’re not so holy!” game. After all, if the pious can’t live up to their own rules, then maybe those of us who prefer Henry Miller and absinthe to the Talmud and Manischewitz aren’t so debased. Rumors abound: A former girlfriend of mine who&#8230;</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Horny haredim provide endless fodder for secular Jews playing the “See, you’re not so holy!” game. After all, if the pious can’t live up to their own rules, then maybe those of us who prefer Henry Miller and absinthe to the Talmud and Manischewitz aren’t so debased. Rumors abound: A former girlfriend of mine who worked the phones at a brothel in Manhattan’s Diamond District claimed that half the customers donning rubbers had been wearing tefillin earlier that day. Certain street corners in Brooklyn are said to host encounters between hookers and the local Satmar Hasids. And one Manhattan dominatrix will tell you that Orthodox Jews make up a significant portion of her clientele.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, Jewish misbehavior is as old as Judaism. What’s new is that the Internet has made getting a<a href="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Dont-be-Evil.jpg" class="mfp-image"><img loading="lazy" src="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Dont-be-Evil-450x270.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="270" /></a> little schmear on the side as easy as hitting the olive bar at Zabar’s. Orthodox Jews choose hormones over Halacha with the aid of sites such as <a href="http://sfbay.craigslist.org/" target="_blank">Craigslist</a>, the FrumSex <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/adultconf?dest=%2Fgroup%2Ffrumsex%2F" target="_blank">mailing list</a> on Yahoo! Groups, and the Israeli-based, Hebrew-language forum Hyde Park. With its long arms and reassuring anonymity, the Internet is threatening to radically alter Orthodox life. It’s also creating a digital paper trail that allows us to watch how the early stages of this revolution are playing out.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A little online sleuthing reveals that instead of chasing after the non-observant, religious Jews are using the Web to break the Seventh Commandment with each other. I placed several personal ads on New   York’s Craigslist asking frum posters to reveal their motivations. Craigslist has a libertarian sensibility, and most of its services are free and anonymous. Its anything-goes mentality is demonstrated best in its <a href="http://newyork.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/personals.cgi?category=cas&amp;SAB=%5D" target="_blank">Casual Encounters</a> section, where adults advertise for no-strings-attached sex. Because it’s so open and there’s no cost for posting, Craigslist attracts a more diverse user community than sites such as JDate, Match.com, and eHarmony. This makes it home to some of the most public Orthodox dirty laundry aired online: In the past week alone, the New York board listed 34 “frum seeking frum” <a href="http://newyork.craigslist.org/search/cas?query=frum" target="_blank">ads</a>.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“Frum guys, read this,” read one post I placed in Casual Encounters. “What are you looking for online? Are you married? Frustrated with the frum world? I want to know. Confidentiality assured.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Responses ranged from denial (“No one online is really frum, so you’re telling a false story”) to enthusiastic, if illiterate, agreement (“MOST JEWISH FRUM WOMAN ARE SO HORNEY THAT EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE SEX WITH THERE HUSBAND THEY ARE IN THE SHOWER USING THE DLODO TO GET ANOTHER ORGASAM [sic] !!!!!!!!!!!!”). I also received responses from women: “its you frum guys are so damm lamm in bed, i just need so badly somebody to make me scream [sic],” a hot-to-trot halachic honey wrote. “wanna go out ? r u good in bed or is is ur wife on craigslist too [sic]?!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Other Orthodox Jews, looking for camaraderie and a sympathetic ear, flock to FrumSex, a six-year-old Yahoo! Group that boasts almost 2000 members (roughly 95 percent of whom are men). “The common complaints are straightforward: Frum guys feel their wives, for the most part, aren’t adventurous or libidinous enough,” explained “<a href="http://www.captaincarmen.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Carmen Olestra</a>,” the founder and owner of FrumSex. In an e-mail to me, Olestra, who describes himself as a married Haredi father in his early thirties, continued: “Many of them have gotten some exposure to secular media and [when they get married] they’re excited by the opportunity to finally explore a woman’s body for real and try out all the things they’ve only dreamed about—and then the wives aren’t interested.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">While it’s easy to use the Internet to get as far as possible from the restrictions of one’s community, many haredim only feel comfortable or accepted around other frum Jews. Even when they express a longing for sexual freedom, it usually involves fantasies about the frum girl next door. The reasons for this are complex. To begin with, many still cling to the mores they were raised with, no matter how thoroughly they transgress them. For example, Orthodox men are forbidden from sleeping with women who have not been ritually cleansed after menstruation; as one Lubavitcher lothario wrote to me, only an observant woman would know to follow such a rule.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Other frum Jews also understand the need to keep things on the down low. Thanks to the anonymity afforded by Craigslist, Orthodox Jews can explore stigmatized desires without worrying about being banished by their communities. For example, gay Orthodox can discreetly hook up. One of my informants told me that he lived a double life not because he couldn’t face telling his wife, but because openly gay haredim “cause grief for their families and destroy their siblings’ and children’s prospects of marriage and happiness.” In other words, if the community discovers that you’re gay, in 40 years your great-nephew might find it impossible to get married. Other Orthodox Jews understand the potential costs of forbidden behavior, the logic goes, and will demonstrate the necessary caution.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Finally, in an online world populated by people looking for easy sex, piety isn’t exactly a selling point. Non-Jewish women aren’t reputed to find frum fashion and mores particularly sexy, which only adds to the discomfort of a religious guy trying to hook up in the non-frum world. For adulterous ultra-Orthodox, fellow believers may be the last, best hope for sexual and emotional fulfillment.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In the past, when it was easy to see who was following the rules and who wasn’t, radicals, dissenters, and deviants like the Craigslist posters and Frumsex members would have been exposed and exiled from the community. Today, because of the internet, they can remain, undetected. The Ethernet cable snaking into the wall is the serpent in the walled garden that the Orthodox have built for themselves.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The challenges offered by the online world are by no means limited to sex, with bloggers such as the <a href="http://hasidicrebel.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Hasidic Rebel</a> and “Shtriemel” of <a href="http://hassid.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">A Hasid and a Heretic</a> posting witty, well-reasoned critiques of the customs and follies of the Orthodox communities into which they were born. No wonder that last year, just before Rosh Hashanah, the Lakewood, N.J. rabbinate <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/23/AR2006062301418.html" target="_blank">joined</a> the Satmar of Williamsburg and other groups in forbidding children, high school students, and even adults from going online unless it was necessary to their livelihoods. This past September, an Israeli <a href="http://www.wwrn.org/article.php?idd=22851&amp;sec=35&amp;cont=all" target="_blank">study</a> concluded that 87% of haredi rabbis believe the Internet is detrimental.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So the headlong collision between traditional sexual mores and the modern free market of online lust presages other revolutions, too. The Internet has become an uncloseable chink in the ghetto wall. The secular temptations of the Enlightenment are being brought ever-closer by the openness and pervasive reach of electronic media, and traditional communities like the ultra-Orthodox are increasingly powerless to stamp out the lurid and heretical impulses in their midst. The more profound challenges they will encounter in the coming years may help them see the occasional treyf hook-up for the trifle it really is.</p>
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