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		<title>Humility Kills</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Singer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 09:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Peter Singer is routinely described as &#34;the most influential living philosopher&#34; and occasionally as &#34;the most dangerous man in the world,&#34; so it&#39;s with much giddiness that we introduce him for a second time as a contributor to Jewcy. The background: Jewcy Senior Editor Joey Kurtzman recently paid enthusiastic tribute to his own $1000 contribution&#8230;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Peter Singer is routinely described as &quot;the most influential living philosopher&quot; and occasionally as &quot;the most dangerous man in the world,&quot; so it&#39;s with much giddiness that we introduce him for a second time as a contributor to Jewcy. </em></p>
<p><em>The background: </em>Jewcy<em> Senior Editor Joey Kurtzman recently paid <a href="/daily_shvitz/the_other_day_i_gave_1000_to_american_idol_and_you_youre_just_a_piece_of_trash">enthusiastic tribute</a> to his own $1000 contribution to the anti-poverty campaign Idol Gives Back</em><em>, and railed against the expectation that charity should be given quietly and anonymously. Joey claimed this was &quot;destructive nonsense&quot; and &quot;insufferable twaddl</em><a href="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Joey.jpg" class="mfp-image"><img loading="lazy" src="http://beta.jewcy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/legacy/Joey-450x270.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="270" /></a><em>e&quot; foisted upon us by Jesus, Maimonides, et al. </em><em>Instead, charity ought to be given publicly and &quot;with a sneer at the lowly neighbors,&quot; </em><em>because extreme poverty can be whipped if middle-class people would come to regard charitable contributions as a source of status and an opportunity for &quot;conspicuous consumption.&quot;   </em></p>
<p><em>The response was mixed. &quot;What a pretentious douchebag!&quot; observed one commenter. &quot;Hope you get a brain tumor and die while spasming and foaming at the mouth uncontrollably,&quot; noted another.   </em></p>
<p><em>But Singer was more sympathetic to Joey&#39;s argument. H</em><em>e weighs in now.</em>  </p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Joey Kurtzman has made a significant point in his post titled <a href="/daily_shvitz/the_other_day_i_gave_1000_to_american_idol_and_you_youre_just_a_piece_of_trash">“I Donated $1000 to American Idol. But You, You&#39;re Trash.”</a></font>  </p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Many of us already know that  more than 10 million children die every year from avoidable, poverty-related  causes.  (That’s 27,000 a day, almost ten times the number of  casualties in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.)  Some  of us might even be dimly aware, when we ponder what type of iPod to  buy, that a billion people have less to live on for an entire year than  we are contemplating spending more on a totally frivolous consumer toy.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Yet widespread extreme poverty  is not inevitable.  A UN task force led by Columbia University  economist Jeffrey Sachs recently estimated the cost of  achieving  the Millennium Development Goals set by the United Nations Millennium  Summit in 2000. On that occasion, the largest gathering of world leaders  in history jointly pledged to meet, by 2015, a list of goals that include:</font></p>
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<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Reducing by half    the proportion of the world’s people in extreme poverty (defined as    living on less than the purchasing-power equivalent of one U.S. dollar    per day).</font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Reducing by half    the proportion of people who suffer from hunger.</font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Ensuring that children    everywhere are able to take a full course of primary schooling.</font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Ending sex disparity    in education.</font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Reducing by two-thirds    the mortality rate among children under 5.</font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Reducing by three-quarters    the rate of maternal mortality.</font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Halting and beginning    to reverse the spread of H.I.V./AIDS and halting and beginning to reduce    the incidence of malaria and other major diseases.</font></li>
<li><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Reducing by half    the proportion of people without sustainable access to safe drinking    water.</font></li>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The cost, according to his  Sachs and his colleagues, is between $121 billion and $189 billion per  year between now and 2015.  Since there are roughly a billion affluent  people in the world, the math is not too difficult.  If we each  gave $200 a year, we could pull it off.  </font> </p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Unfortunately, we are not doing  that.  Isn’t that just plain morally wrong?  How can we  defend spending money on luxuries for ourselves when that same money  could save the lives of sick kids, get a few years schooling for children  who otherwise will have none, and help women to control their fertility  so that they can give all of their children a decent shot at a good  life?  The problem is that we don’t <em>see </em> it as wrong to give nothing or next to nothing to NGOs working for poverty  relief.  Somehow we think morality is all about how truthful we  are, how good a friend or partner we are, maybe who we sleep with, or  what substances we put into our bodies, and not about how many kids  we save from dying of malaria or diarrhea.</font> </p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">So Joey is right to point out that if this situation is  ever going to change, we need to  start talking openly about it.  It’s time to stop being so reverential  towards those remarks of Jesus and Maimonides about giving anonymously  or not blowing our own trumpet.  Sure, we don’t want to humiliate  those to whom we give, or make them feel that they are indebted to us,  but the world has got so much bigger than it was when Jesus and Maimonides  were around, so that’s not really a problem any more. </font>   </p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">At the moment, many people  would feel strange about giving away, say, 10 percent of their  income to fight global poverty.  Talking about it may make that  seem a more normal thing to do, and would encourage others to do the  same.  It may also make people realize that it’s not really a  sacrifice.  You probably will enjoy life just as much with a little  less money – in fact you will probably enjoy it more, because you  will feel good about yourself and what you are doing.</font>   </p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">That’s not to say we have  to be distastefully boastful about it… but yes, if you are living  comfortably while others are hungry or dying from easily preventable  diseases, and you are doing nothing about it, there is something wrong  with your behavior.</font> </p>
<p> <font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Want to know more about what  you can do?  My favorite poverty-fighting NGO is Oxfam.  Check  out </font><a href="http://www.oxfam.org/" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#0000ff"><u>www.oxfam.org</u></font></a><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> or </font><a href="http://www.oxfamamerica.org/" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#0000ff"><u>www.oxfamamerica.org</u></font></a></p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s Like an Online Vegetarian Orgasmatron! Peter Singer Responds to Jewcy Veggie Dialogue.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 07:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Here it is. From Singer himself, in response to the Jewcy vegetarian dialogue. Truly, all things are possible, if only you pester, flatter, beg, and resort to myriad other methods of persuasion, inducement, coercion. Here&#39;s his take. — Joey  [Also, read Peter Singer&#39;s recent Jewcy article, here.] Where does Charles Eisenstein get this &#34;vegetarians&#8230;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="times new roman,times"><font size="3"><em>Yep. Here it is. From Singer himself, in response to the <a href="/dialogue/2007-05-14/living_is_killing">Jewcy vegetarian dialogue</a>. Truly, all things are possible, if only you pester, flatter, beg, and resort to myriad other methods of persuasion, inducement, coercion.</em><font color="#000000"> <em>Here&#39;s his take. </em></font></font></font><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'">—</span><font face="times new roman,times"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><em> Joey <strong> [Also, read Peter Singer&#39;s recent Jewcy article, </strong><a href="/feature/2007-05-24/petersingerjewcy"><strong>here</strong></a><strong>.]</strong></em></font></font></font></p>
<p><font face="times new roman,times" size="3" color="#000000">Where does Charles Eisenstein get this &quot;vegetarians must kill&quot; stuff, as if all vegetarians have the same reason for being vegetarian, and it&#39;s about killing? He&#39;s obviously deeply out of touch with the modern animal rights movement, which is at least as concerned about suffering as killing. I wrote <em>Animal Liberation </em>without ever appealing to arguments against killing</font><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'">—</span><font face="times new roman,times" size="3" color="#000000">in fact I specifically set them aside, saying that they were more complicated, and not required for the case I was making against the way we treat animals. And yes, that book does have a chapter arguing that we should be vegetarians<font face="Verdana">.</font></font></p>
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